Cempaka Belanda: 'Disobedient' Austrian Catholics preach message of reform

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“ … Here is another one. A change in what Human nature will allow for government. "Careful, Kryon, don't talk about politics. You'll get in trouble." I won't get in trouble. I'm going to tell you to watch for leadership that cares about you. "You mean politics is going to change?" It already has. It's beginning. Watch for it. You're going to see a total phase-out of old energy dictatorships eventually. The potential is that you're going to see that before 2013.
They're going to fall over, you know, because the energy of the population will not sustain an old energy leader ..."

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“… The Shift in Human Nature

You're starting to see integrity change. Awareness recalibrates integrity, and the Human Being who would sit there and take advantage of another Human Being in an old energy would never do it in a new energy. The reason? It will become intuitive, so this is a shift in Human Nature as well, for in the past you have assumed that people take advantage of people first and integrity comes later. That's just ordinary Human nature.

In the past, Human nature expressed within governments worked like this: If you were stronger than the other one, you simply conquered them. If you were strong, it was an invitation to conquer. If you were weak, it was an invitation to be conquered. No one even thought about it. It was the way of things. The bigger you could have your armies, the better they would do when you sent them out to conquer. That's not how you think today. Did you notice?

Any country that thinks this way today will not survive, for humanity has discovered that the world goes far better by putting things together instead of tearing them apart. The new energy puts the weak and strong together in ways that make sense and that have integrity. Take a look at what happened to some of the businesses in this great land (USA). Up to 30 years ago, when you started realizing some of them didn't have integrity, you eliminated them. What happened to the tobacco companies when you realized they were knowingly addicting your children? Today, they still sell their products to less-aware countries, but that will also change.

What did you do a few years ago when you realized that your bankers were actually selling you homes that they knew you couldn't pay for later? They were walking away, smiling greedily, not thinking about the heartbreak that was to follow when a life's dream would be lost. Dear American, you are in a recession. However, this is like when you prune a tree and cut back the branches. When the tree grows back, you've got control and the branches will grow bigger and stronger than they were before, without the greed factor. Then, if you don't like the way it grows back, you'll prune it again! I tell you this because awareness is now in control of big money. It's right before your eyes, what you're doing. But fear often rules. …”

Sunday, September 18, 2011

'Disobedient' Austrian Catholics preach message of reform

Deutsche Welle, 18 sep 2011

The movement has published
a manifesto for reform

Hundreds of Catholic priests and lay people in Austria have issued a 'Declaration of Disobedience.' The movement is calling for reform of the Catholic church including the ordination of women and an end to celibacy.

Disgruntled Roman Catholics in Austria have not only been breaking bread at their weekly masses - they have also been breaking with tradition.

A total of 329 priests - one in ten of all priests in Austria - are openly supporting the call for reform that they say is needed to breathe life back into the church.

The movement calls for male priests to be allowed to marry, ending the church's celibacy rule. The would-be reformers also want women to be able to enter the priesthood and urge greater acceptance of divorce.

The group wants women, as well as
men, to be ordained

Rather than simply appealing for reforms, the group has declared it will break ecclesiastical rules by giving communion to Protestants and remarried divorced Catholics. It will also allow lay people - men and women - to preach and to lead head parishes without a priest.

The dissidents' main spokesman is Father Helmut Schüller, who claims that a shortage of priests makes reform essential. In the entire southern state of Carinthia, not one single priest will be ordained this year.

"We're presenting suggestions for how we can continue, when we have no replacements," said Schüller. "How we can find people from our own ranks - for example our own parish members who can simply continue on? We've been thinking about this for years."

It might be too early to call it a schism but unlike the congregations in Austrian churches, the number of "disobedients" is on the increase.

Moral justification

One woman, a religion teacher who wished to remain anonymous, claims she has right on her side when she breaks church law.

"One can only change a law by breaking the law," she said. "When we come to a law that is spelt out the way it is now - that does not address our requirements and our rights but actually restricts them - then I believe I have the right to violate it."

Schönborn has said that Catholics
should stick to the rules

Head of the Roman Catholic Church in Austria, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, says he is shocked by the open call to defy church doctrine. In a letter he told the rebels they should leave the Church if they do not wish to play by the rules.

Calls for a more liberal church are not new in Austria, says religion commentator Markus Veinfurter, who claims there are no signs that the establishment will listen. "They are all raising the same issues," said Veinfurter. "But there is no movement in the church whatsoever, as far as the hierarchy is concerned."

A public opinion poll shows most Austrians, 76 percent of those surveyed, support the priests' demands and their disobedience.

"Where does it lead?" said Veinfurter. "I think people will go on leaving the Church, people, even those from the innermost part of the church will lose their allegiance. Maybe in a few years time the bishops will be on their own."

Author: Kerry Skyring / rc

Editor: Andreas Illmer

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